tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post911566742143547331..comments2024-01-10T14:58:00.833-07:00Comments on Nameless Cynic: Why Do Republicans Hate Americans?Nameless Cynichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17963921060024737712noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-91473891683495249032009-08-20T10:48:43.554-06:002009-08-20T10:48:43.554-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.KOOKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03986549911723641974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-59527691095074930692009-08-09T22:44:08.929-06:002009-08-09T22:44:08.929-06:00It's true. The Blue Dog Democrats, for example...It's true. The Blue Dog Democrats, for example, are busy trying to make nice with people who wouldn't vote for them in the first place.<br /><br />Meanwhile, of course, the Republicans don't offer solutions, just opposition. They've been taken over by the worst types of theocrats, power-mongers and the terminally insane.<br /><br />Choose your party.Nameless Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963921060024737712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-41292071895410475072009-08-09T01:58:01.466-06:002009-08-09T01:58:01.466-06:00Democrats have veto-proof majority in the Senate, ...Democrats have veto-proof majority in the Senate, and control the House, & Presidency. Major logic fault Nameless Cynic.<br /><br />Mock Republicans as irrelevent if you want, but, they aren't to blame for any of your current problems.<br /><br />The fault is the Democrats don't have the courage of their convictions. They know the American people don't back them on their power grab, and want some cover. <br /><br />The Democratic Party: party of Envy and Whining. But that can only get you so far. At some point, you need someone who can actually DO something.Bud-Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15884212085023077424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-27695998623663147812009-07-28T09:17:07.460-06:002009-07-28T09:17:07.460-06:00Now, Eman, I asked Diogenes to stop calling you na...Now, Eman, I asked Diogenes to stop calling you names unless you do it first. He's gone past that, and hasn't insulted you once. Despite ample provocation.<br /><br />I'd kind of hoped that you'd take the hint. But you don't take hints well, do you? So let's be blunt.<br /><br />It was Andrew33 who pointed out that this blogs comment area was full of acrimony. He was being a dick at the time, but he made a valid point.<br /><br />So, rein it in, and I won't tell you what I think of you. You're welcome to disagree with ideas, but leave the insults on your own blog, OK?<br /><br />I didn't notice anybody else telling you they'd reported me, but I know for a fact that at least two other people have. (I usually blog about it.) But because I'm calm, logical, and usually right, it never comes to anything.<br /><br />Now, you claim that "the words of Christ mean more to (you) than anything." You don't show that. You denigrate the idea of universal healthcare, even though Jesus wanted it (that's why I pointed out Matt 25).<br /><br />(I mentioned, incidentally, that ERs are overstresed. And there's equally-stressed free clinics, but you're screwed if you need a specialist. Is that what you mean by "free care everywhere"?)<br /><br />There's other verses you might like, though (all NIV).<br /><br />Psalms 37:8 - <i>Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret—it leads only to evil.</i><br /><br />Proverbs 20:3 - <i>It is to a man's honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel </i><br /><br />Ephesians 4:31 - <i>Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.</i><br /><br />Also consider Proverbs 9:12, Colossians 3:13 and Romans 12:17-18. And then ask yourself why this agnostic is a better Christian than you are.Nameless Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963921060024737712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-48045520866282298212009-07-28T08:37:24.927-06:002009-07-28T08:37:24.927-06:00You're correct, the GOP would attempt to block...You're correct, the GOP would attempt to block any meaningful health care reform but to suggest Obama's plan is that - is ridiculous.<br /><br />Passing this particular legislation will accomplish little other than insuring any substantive reform will be put off another decade(s). The health insurance industry needs to die a quick death and health care disassociated from employment.<br /><br />Some things should not be for profit - period. While individual legislators differ ... the parties not so much. Neither the Republican or Democratic party represent the vast majority of Americans. The military-industrial-congressional complex is alive and well.Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08944649205659070225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-38132265432312910862009-07-27T21:00:55.479-06:002009-07-27T21:00:55.479-06:00"You know how to drop the cost of everyone’s ..."You know how to drop the cost of everyone’s health care in America? Take away everyone’s health care insurance. Now I am not advocating that but the fact is if that happened, people would go to the doctor less and costs would plummet."<br /><br />Well, let's take that just one more step in your "logic".<br /><br />Why stop at taking away everyone's health care? Let's take away all the doctors! That would lower costs to nothing, and then nobody would ever be sick, since there would be no doctors to treat them!<br /><br />Damn, why didn't we think of this before??<br /><br />(BTW, e-boy, just because you and A-J filed complaints doesn't mean anybody took them seriously. We're still here!)Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00138837243963257069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-38400449536240827212009-07-27T15:34:34.161-06:002009-07-27T15:34:34.161-06:00http://cnnmoney.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?...http://cnnmoney.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=You%27ll+lose+5+key+freedoms+under+Obama%27s+health+care+plan+-+Jul.+24%2C+2009&expire=-1&urlID=407324012&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmoney.cnn.com%2F2009%2F07%2F24%2Fnews%2Feconomy%2Fhealth_care_reform_obama.fortune%2Findex.htm&partnerID=2200Eric Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811398681615216585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-45805670567376954982009-07-27T13:10:36.426-06:002009-07-27T13:10:36.426-06:00PS This bill has NOTHING to do with HealthCARE. ...PS This bill has NOTHING to do with HealthCARE. It is about control and power. There is nothing in it addressing CAREKOOKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03986549911723641974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-62297511602354039972009-07-27T13:09:38.197-06:002009-07-27T13:09:38.197-06:00I am struck by two things as I begin to return the...I am struck by two things as I begin to return the favor of being a dissenting voice in the leftist world.<br /><br />1) Some have said on here that we could solve all kinds of problems if we get rid of certain states, well I believe that too. Maybe it is time for a divorce.<br /><br />2) The GOP (sad sack though they are) want to defeat healthcare because it is BAD NEWS for anyone who works for a living and/or ever plans on being sick. Not only to defeat Obama. Obama will defeat (some say already has) himself. <br /><br />His policies will eventually fail as they have every time they have ever been tried since before the time of christ.KOOKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03986549911723641974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-19589556941687269892009-07-27T12:55:10.978-06:002009-07-27T12:55:10.978-06:00The words of Christ mean more to me than anything ...The words of Christ mean more to me than anything on this earth Bill. The fact is, you and I already do it. There's free care everywhere. So your point is MOOT.<br /><br />Deficit Neutral? Ah, yeah sure...If you do the math the way the Senate and House do math, which is in no way looking at real cost like the 248 Billion sent out to the AMA.They didn't include that an a whole host of other costs to make it LOOK neutral. <br /><br />Look, you're going to go on kidding yourself and every Diogenes that reads your stuff. My post is factual. You just say it's not because you want to, not because you use logic. And that,s fine if you want to live sands logic, I choose not to. <br /><br />There are 5 huge freedoms you'll lose if we get Government run health care Bill, check CNN for details. <br /><br />"these liberal sledgehammers would not stop. I now have chosen to remove their ability to post, their ISP addresses being blocked now and further comments will not be seen by me. I have reported their actions to BlogSpot and they are looking at the comments I forwarded to them in the hope these two people, who seem to care not for country or character, find ways to express their ideas without the crud, rude and inconsiderate utterances prone to liberal minds."<br /><br />Yes...That would be me, and I'm proud of it. And I also find I was not alone in reporting you. But I digress.<br /><br />I'm now having more people on my blog then I have fingers, toes and teeth (I have full sets of each) and no longer have time for your disinformation. Have fun!!Eric Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811398681615216585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-85783381888693746052009-07-27T12:53:13.920-06:002009-07-27T12:53:13.920-06:00The words of Christ mean more to me than anything ...The words of Christ mean more to me than anything on this earth Bill. The fact is, you and I already do it. There's free care everywhere. So your point is MOOT.<br /><br />Deficit Neutral? Ah, yeah sure...If you do the math the way the Senate and House do math, which is in no way looking at real cost like the 248 Billion sent out to the AMA.They didn't include that an a whole host of other costs to make it LOOK neutral. <br /><br />Look, you're going to go on kidding yourself and every Diogenes that reads your stuff. My post is factual. You just say it's not because you want to, not because you use logic. And that,s fine if you want to live sands logic, I choose not to. <br /><br />There are 5 huge freedoms you'll lose if we get Government run health care Bill, check CNN for details. <br /><br />"these liberal sledgehammers would not stop. I now have chosen to remove their ability to post, their ISP addresses being blocked now and further comments will not be seen by me. I have reported their actions to BlogSpot and they are looking at the comments I forwarded to them in the hope these two people, who seem to care not for country or character, find ways to express their ideas without the crud, rude and inconsiderate utterances prone to liberal minds."<br /><br />Yes...That would be me, and I'm proud of it. And I also find I was not alone in reporting you. But I digress.<br /><br />I'm now having more people on my blog then I have fingers, toes and teeth (I have full sets of each) and no longer have time for your disinformation. Have fun!!Eric Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811398681615216585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-2088793626040811412009-07-26T23:39:28.887-06:002009-07-26T23:39:28.887-06:00Hey, Eric. How's things?
So first,
Allow me ...Hey, Eric. How's things?<br /><br />So first,<br /><br /><i>Allow me to cut and paste a post from my blog</i><br /><br />Oh, right. Hang on... I've got it here somewhere...<br /><br /><i>these liberal sledgehammers would not stop. I now have chosen to remove their ability to post, their ISP addresses being blocked now and further comments will not be seen by me. I have reported their actions to BlogSpot and they are looking at the comments I forwarded to them in the hope these two people, who seem to care not for country or character, find ways to express their ideas without the crud, rude and inconsiderate utterances prone to liberal minds.</i><br /><br />Huh. Would <i>that</i> be the blog we're talking about? Just curious...<br /><br /><i>B.)To make sure the (supposed) 47 million Americans without coverage can get coverage</i><br /><br />Well, I believe that I showed that those numbers were actually a little low. But let's move on, shall we?<br /><br /><i>Besides the reports from the non-partisan congressional budget office which tell us this plan will raise costs substantially</i><br /><br />Excuse me? <br /><br />I believe that, if you look into it, you'll find that the CBO felt that this bill was <a href="http://energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1710:cbo-scores-confirms-deficit-neutrality-of-health-reform-bill&catid=122:media-advisories&Itemid=55" rel="nofollow">deficit neutral</a>. Those numbers are in contention (which, in fact, I mention in this post), but you should probably get that right.<br /><br /><i>Who is more likely to use health care: Those without insurance or those with insurance?</i><br /><br />Well, technically, neither. Those who are sick are more likely to use health care. The question is, who's going to pay for it. At the moment, that's you and me.<br /><br /><i>If it is your purpose to lower health care costs, giving it to people who don’t have it (47 million of them…so they say...)</i><br /><br />Well, almost twice that, if you'd actually read the post. But let's move on.<br /><br />Do I blame the Republicans? I believe I covered that already, too.<br /><br />Now, let's look at your bigger question. (I'll assume here that, unlike the Congressional Republicans, you actually <i>have</i> a "bigger question")<br /><br />Should we, in fact, supply health care to all the non-working, non-productive, useless factions of society who wander around begging change from every hard-working member of this, the greatest nation that ever lived?<br /><br />I'll answer you in the words of Jesus Himself. (Matthew 25:31-46)<br /><br /><i>"Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... I was sick and you looked after me... I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."</i><br /><br />But maybe those words don't mean anything to you.Nameless Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963921060024737712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-71563486481180804112009-07-26T21:13:33.634-06:002009-07-26T21:13:33.634-06:00Allow me to cut and paste a post from my blog...
...Allow me to cut and paste a post from my blog...<br /><br />President Obama says he wants this Health Care Reform bill for two reasons:<br /> <br />A.) To lower the cost of healthcare in America and…<br /><br />B.)To make sure the (supposed) 47 million Americans without coverage can get coverage.<br /><br />Besides the reports from the non-partisan congressional budget office which tell us this plan will raise costs substantially, let’s set that aside for a moment and look at the facts.<br /><br />What the President proposes are two concepts that are fundamentally opposed to each other. <br /><br />Who is more likely to use health care: Those without insurance or those with insurance?<br /><br />By far it is those WITH insurance because the care costs nearly nothing. If someone else is going to pay most or all of the cost, I’m going to use that service more often… Right?<br /><br />If it is your purpose to lower health care costs, giving it to people who don’t have it (47 million of them…so they say…) they are going to use it more often and more aggressively then they would without. So right there, the statement of purpose from Obama is fundamentally flawed. The costs will skyrocket!! Obama has never…NOT ONE TIME…showed to the people of this country or explained to them how requiring everyone to have health insurance will lower the cost of it, and he never will because the numbers add up, they don’t subtract down!<br /> <br />You know how to drop the cost of everyone’s health care in America? Take away everyone’s health care insurance. Now I am not advocating that but the fact is if that happened, people would go to the doctor less and costs would plummet.<br /><br />It is illogical to think and irresponsible to say that costs would go down if everyone had health insurance. This is a house of cards and the longer we see what they’re building, the more it falls apart.<br /><br />You liberals have a 20 seat filibuster proof advantage in the Senate. You liberals have a 70 seat advantage in the House, and you can’t pass this bill.<br /><br />AND WHO DO YOU BLAME? <br /><br />THE REPUBLICANS!!!?????????<br /><br />Now, besides the fact that every person who becomes gravely ill and is finically capable COMES TO AMERICA FOR CARE BECAUSE WE ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD… And besides the fact that this President is waltzing around the world apologizing for U.S. and seems very ashamed of this country, the bottom line is…<br /><br />Barry….you got some splainin to dooo!!<br /><br />And he said the COP was acting stupidly.....Eric Graffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00811398681615216585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-6488549029246005292009-07-26T19:48:31.969-06:002009-07-26T19:48:31.969-06:00Hell, if we could get rid of Texas, we could solve...Hell, if we could get rid of Texas, we could solve all SORTS of problems, not just healthcare.<br /><br />And if we had only done it eight years ago.......Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00138837243963257069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20984086.post-14787406332144309282009-07-26T19:21:07.258-06:002009-07-26T19:21:07.258-06:00The Democrats have the Congress, the Senate and of...The Democrats have the Congress, the Senate and of course the Whitehouse...Republicans aren't stopping any legislation. Democrats only have themselves to blame for not getting a bill passed right now.Gregg's Health Insurance Newshttp://greggshealthinsurancenews.blogspot.com/2009/07/tx-governor-raising-issue-of-states.htmlnoreply@blogger.com